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Trump Vs United States (Audio with Captions)

SCOTUS hears arguments in the monumental case brought by Donald Trump and whether the US president can be criminally prosecuted, It's a decision for "the ages" that could alter the American fabric.

Narativ is posting the audio from yestetday’s SCOTUS hearing fully captioned in portrait orientation to make it easy to follow along on your phone

“Without presidential immunity from criminal prosecution, there can be no presidency as we know it. For 234 years of American history, no president was ever prosecuted for his official acts.

The framers of our Constitution viewed an energetic executive as essential to securing liberty. If a president can be charged, put on trial, and imprisoned for his most controversial decisions as soon as he leaves office, that looming threat will distort the president's decision making precisely when bold and fearless action is most needed.

Every current president will face de facto blackmail and extortion by his political rivals while still in office. The implications of the court's decision here extend far beyond the facts of this case. Could President George W. Bush have been sent to prison for obstructing an official proceeding or allegedly, uh, lying to Congress to induce war in Iraq?

Could President Obama be charged with murder for killing U. S. citizens abroad by a drone strike? Could President Biden someday be charged with, uh, unlawfully inducing immigrants to enter the country illegally for his border policy? The answer to all these questions is no. Prosecuting the president for his official acts is an innovation with no foothold in history or tradition and is incompatible with our constitutional structure.

The original meaning of the executive vesting clause, the framers' understanding and intent, an unbroken historical tradition spanning 200 years, and policy considerations rooted in the separation of powers all counsel against it. I welcome the court's questions.