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Donald Sinclair Richardson's avatar

And if so isn’t that the radioactive material that scares Trump to death, and not the girls?

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Louise Williams's avatar

Thank you SO very much!!! If only mainstream media would retell your story in all it's grim details. I continually refer to you and Narativ on my Substack page.

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Donald Sinclair Richardson's avatar

Would Maxwell/Epstein have been the cutout for Russia dark money that fed Trump or Trump enterprises?

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Laurie Stricks's avatar

Such an informative conversation.

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Donald Sinclair Richardson's avatar

And is it possible that either Epstein outbid Trump on the "property" with Russian funds, or that the Russian money that was available to Trump went through Epstein, and he wanted a bigger cut which infuriated Trump.

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Sandra Przybylski's avatar

It's interesting that you mentioned the Les Wexner empire was a bootlegging empire. Back in the days of prohibition, they built tunnels underneath houses in order to secretly transport 'moonshine.' These tunnels were later used for sex trafficking, transporting the victims secretly. It's been said the sex trafficking was a cover for the money laundering.The falling out of Epstein & trump was over a house that Epstein wanted to buy, because it was designed by his friend Wexner. trump was low on money & borrowed $ from Rybolovlev to purchase the house from under Epstein & then sold it to Rybolovlev. Epstein was angry at trump because he wanted to make that house his home. The house was located in Palm beach & may have had tunnels underneath. Many of the homes in that area did. There was documentation on X thru an article that Rudy had purchased a bungalow across Ocean BLvd from MAL in Palm Beach & Rudy said there was a tunnel under the street leading right to MAL. Rybolovlev eventually tore the house down & divided the land into 3 plots & sold them. Venture Capital (Kelly)on X had a thread with documentation that the Rybolovlev house in Palm Beach was near a mass of underwater cables which the Russians were mapping in order to sabotage.

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Kris O's avatar

OMG! Love you guys talking this through - it is truly great & fascinating, how long this has been going on…

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Kathy Austin, Texas's avatar

Love how you both bring your knowledge of Epstein and Maxwell together. Loved listening to you both piecing it together for us. I look forward to you both sharing more of your investigative journalism.

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Liberty and Justice for All's avatar

You two together are the bomb. All of your incredible research and knowledge shines through and I hang on every word, rewind when I don’t quite understand or if I miss somebody’s name. This is amazing.

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DidntThinkWeWouldBeHere's avatar

Great show, thank you. When you talk about informants and espionage, you didn’t talk about Trump’s potential role as an informant. Here’s an article Greg Olear wrote about his work on Trump and his mob connections. Olear posits that Trump operated as an FBI CI against the mob in exchange for unfettered/borderline illegal mob affiliated real estate development. You wonder, if after his Atlantic City bankruptcy, he pivoted towards Russian dirty $ in NYC and acted as a CI against the Russians in exchange for permission to cozy up to their money laundering in NY…and this may have been part of the gateway into the higher orbit Epstein/Maxwell transnational activity? And Trump Model Management then acting as a feeder of young girls for Epstein? It might also explain how Trump advanced so far in politics despite his shady transactions? He was a protected CI and FBI couldn’t out him? This Olear reporting (and Unger’s work might suggest the same) may be a missing puzzle piece in Trump’s ascendancy into Epstein orbit.

https://open.substack.com/pub/gregolear/p/tinker-tailor-mobster-trump?r=5ipvvs&utm_medium=ios

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An Mcgreevy's avatar

I forgot Vickie wrote that book about the criminal Kushner family. All you and Zev have uncovered is the overriding fact that average Americans and Russians have been screwed by their governments for years.

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Sue Q's avatar

I have been a subscriber since the days of your interview with Steve Hoffenberg. Thank you for pointing out to Vicky on his consistency answering your questions of him. She seemed unconvinced. Her reporting that JE was open about his interaction with Putin, but no memory of Douglas Lees…wow!

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Catherine Beck's avatar

What I'm getting from the final part of the interview is that you and Vicky Ward are hopefully going to revise/adjust the timelines and origins of Jeffrey Epstein's cash. And maybe map out the networks. I'd really like to see the results!

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Demetri Dourambeis's avatar

23:00 minutes in. Question from Vicky, "How did you get into all this thing?"

Fascinating answer, and there we start a new narrative.

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