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Sean Wiswesser's avatar

Thank you Zev, great summary of a great discussion!

Hope those watching and reading consider my book for more on the evils of the RIS:

https://a.co/d/0hMzJipz

Fran's avatar

A lot of excellent information. But the Russians Were hacking to have trump elected. He’s their extremely useful idiot.

Also, from the russian point of view, we’ve already had Wlll, the Cold War, and they know they lost it. We’ve been in WWllll ever since, because to the russians, active measures, etc., are just Different Weapons of War. They use whichever weapon is most to their advantage. And the West has let itself slowly be taken apart.

It’s not too late to stop it. And Ukraine is in the process of collapsing russia now — se e Jason Smart’s articles here on Substack and youtube on what’s really happening.

Penelope Lane's avatar

Fran— Spot on!

Marilyn Hubbard's avatar

Makes Cash Patel’s trip to Russia and the monthly exchange of FBI personal with Russia and China sound like the Trump Administration has upped the ante on election interference.

joAn's avatar

Really insightful interview, Zev! Sean understands Russia's very, very long game and our well-intentioned American naivete... which really doesn't feel good for extraordinary meddling in our current and future elections. And... I'd have to say, the fact that so many more Americans are aware of how 'fragile' our elections are is hopeful. We're paying more attention to at least their past tricks. Hopefully enough of us can call 'foul!', figure out a work-around that will do more to safeguard our Democracy from Russia's ever-ready 'sow chaos' measures.

The Chaos in Chief in the Whitehouse who is a Russian-something (along with his family, many in the cabinet, advisors, as well...) concerns me in a major way. Gotta unify against t and his regime! I look forward to reading Wisswesser's book!

Chloé's avatar

I Proudly pre-ordered an AUDIBLE “Copy” of

Tradecraft, Tactics, and Dirty Tricks: Russian Intelligence and Putin’s Secret War.

Available Sept. 22nd.

Sean Wiswesser's avatar

Thank you for that, appreciated, I know you will enjoy!

Chloé's avatar

I Agree. Expecting to Enjoy it based on The Title and your Excellent conversation w/ Zev Shalev.

I’ll report back. This reply is my Commitment.

8 hrs of Listening is Doable.

Sabrina Wood's avatar

Wow! Great guy to have on your show. I’m buying the book for sure.

Sean Wiswesser's avatar

Thank you for your support!

Maggie W.'s avatar

What feels incomprehensible is why hasn’t another country, that needs the support of a democratic version of the United States, hacked and released the unredacted Epstein files.

Jean A. Austin-Long's avatar

Russia doesn't have to work very hard now that they have Trump weakening our country in every way he can. I believe he is just a Russian asset doing the most damage that he can in the time he has. Can you tell us anything Trump has done to improve the lives of Americans or improve our image in the world?

Penelope Lane's avatar

Sean , ex-CIA, does not want to differentiate between parties in domestic politics, but Zev, journalist, does. I am left with this question:

Does Sean's position come purely from having taken an oath to serve the country not any political party, hence he looks outward to enemies abroad OR

Does he know more than Zev or any of us about real evils inside the Democrats which actually make them just as bad as Trump?

Also, we all know about the evils the CIA itself has committed, especially in subverting young democracies in South America. It cannot claim to be free of rightwing political bias.

And we all know that Trump has been a Russian asset since 1987, an object of interest to the KGB even earlier since the 1970s, and the Kremlin has had full access to everything going on in American intelligence, ever since that extraordinary publicly leaked Signals chat. We know that Trump's family and close associates such as Witkoff are also Russian assets. Finally, we know that Trump is utterly corrupt, to an extent that seems far worse than Democrat leaders.

That said, this was an excellent, most informative presentation for the information, analysis and context it does give us, as long as the above reservations are kept in mind.

Finally, what is forgotten is that the greatest crimes against humanity are currently being perpetrated against women, who are not a minority group, but the majority of the human race. The subhuman bestial evil of the US withdrawal from Aghanistan was instigated by Trump. The Democrats then went along with it. Those are not equal evils.

Sean Wiswesser's avatar

I did take an oath to the constitution, not any party…I served for 28 years and was prohibited as a CIA officer from engaging in Politics in any way—that is the way we should be, and the way Americans should want it. And I respect and hold to those values now…thank you! As to the “evils” you talk about, I was proud to have served and those I served with keeping our country safe.

Assemblywoman Debra Mazzarelli's avatar

Thank you,Sean. It is refreshing to hear what I grew up reading and understanding about my country’s federal agencies, nonpartisanship. Often, as a state legislator I would see a few partisan people,but eventually they were weeded out with administration changes. It is just so nice for me to hear you and see there were and will hopefully be nonpartisan voices again someday…thank you for your service! Excellent work by you and Zev.

Sean Wiswesser's avatar

Thank you! Hope you’ll consider my book for more: https://a.co/d/0iphxSfA

John Michael's avatar

If this guy is right, we are fucked, period!

Sabrina Wood's avatar

If you listen closely we are not inevitably fucked. Vote and stay active is the message they are trying to get across to us; not say we are fucked and check out. Just sayin.

John Michael's avatar

Had I checked out, I would t be here. Far from checked out. However this regime will do anything strip us of our right to vote and a vote in November is not guaranteed. Have remained optimistic however facts are facts. Americans are apathetic and most couldn’t be bothered nor understand the severity of the

State of the nation.

As far as listening closely, you are in no way in a place to asses that.

Sabrina Wood's avatar

We are allowed to comment here just as you have done. I am allowed to assess your comment to make my comment. If you’d written all you’ve just written, then I would have agreed about the apathy and added lack of critical thinking is also contributing to a possible loss of our democracy. Bottom line I go glass half full. Your first comment was very glass half empty. United we stand. Divided we fall.

John Michael's avatar

We are very united!

Chloé's avatar

Listening Closely doesn’t move my “We’re fucked” positioning. w/ John Michael.

Sabrina Wood's avatar

You may stay negatively fucked all you like 👍 have a lovely day.

Chloé's avatar

Just like A Woman: Passive Aggressive.

That Mold needs Broken. You are CLEARLY not Helping.

Additionally: your rather Unpleasant comment surely breaks Mr. Shalev’s Rules of Engagement. Naughty Girl seeking Attention?!

John Michael's avatar

Sabrina. Stay in your lane and keep your demoralizing comments in the right feed.

Keep talking Norma😉

Sabrina Wood's avatar

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂k let’s review. I have hope for our democracy as Sean discussed. I will comment because that’s what these areas are for: Comments. You have a lovely day too, and I hope you feel uplifted even though you will not put me in any lane.

Chloé's avatar

Someone having My Back in comments is Unexpected & Appreciated. The Winking emoji is a Nice added touch.

Sabrina Wood's avatar

I given you a have a lovely day comment and you insist I’m the problem? 🙄😂 You have stated you agree with the chap I felt was exceedingly negative despite Sean clearly stating he’s staying in the fight and encouraging all of us to stay positive and he’s the expert, right?. It’s actually you and your ilk that refuse to be positive thinkers that are the problem every time you state “we are fucked”. Now, yet again, I do hope you continue on in your lovely day.

Chloé's avatar

Your: “have a lovely day” is The Passive that’s Negated

by The Aggressive: “You may stay negatively fucked”.

Especially since you KNOW I referred to We: as in Our Nation.

Gaslighting doesn’t Work on Me.

As you are a graduate of Communications at The University of California, Santa Barbara. One, such as Myself, would Expect better.

Postscript: I texted “We’re fucked”. Not “we are fucked” as you texted back at me.

Precision Matters when Beating back Fascists.

Betsy's avatar

Would love to hear his take on F. Israel Monsters and Murderers 😳!!!

Steven M.'s avatar

The US regularly interferes in other countries' elections, but it makes a big fuss if other nations interfere in American elections.

LaNita Jones's avatar

Does his work also speak to the Soviet-born Ukrainian Israeli agents that is real to Carbyne?

LaNita Jones's avatar

Is real to Israel. . .

Frieda Love's avatar

Which 1:00 pm time zone, Zev?