I only caught the last part of this live, but I’m looking forward to viewing the entire episode. I know about NDEs and expanded states of consciousness, but I was delightfully surprised to hear them discussed on what I thought would be a political discussion. I had no idea that you were interested in these topics, Zev. Your range and depth continues to astound me! I think it is both necessary and salutary to have a metaphysical perspective from which to view the current crisis, which is not just an American crisis, or even a crisis of western civilization. At bottom it is a spiritual crisis of human evolution. Thank you. Zev, for this reminder. And I plan on ordering Mr, Junger’s book.
According to Mike at Military Religious Freedom Foundation, eight commanders of units told their soldiers to see the documentary Melania. We have also had the commanders of the unit that committed murder on the high seas and snatched Maduro. They have already crossed the line into giving and obeying illegal orders. Columbia should have filed a case with the International Criminal Court but instead its president was invited to the White House.
Unfortunately the interview wasn’t great because of the annoyance of the fading in and out of the audio from Mr. Junger. I have been looking forward to the interview with Mr.Junger. I followed his work for years. My background as a psychiatric nurse makes me sad to observe a well known journalist and speaker my bubble burst during Zev’s interview. Mr. Junger has no idea what he’s talking about. Yes, each of us has our own prejudices and perceptions of the world. But, this is dangerous. I’m going to give him a little bit of wiggle room. When he says we are not “totally fascist”. He is right on that point. If that is what he meant. Luckily it’s harder to destroy the government that has some guard rails( constitution)vs a government like Russia. A government that had no chance to recover from 1990’s. That being said. We can open our eyes and know what’s happening. His words matter. To say it’s not fascism is wrong. My opinion and he admits it he has been traumatized by war, and his almost death experience concludes me to think why he’s opinion is opposite of mine. I think Zev was surprised how this interview was going. He pushed back by his questions. But still continued. There was nothing for Zev to do but continue on. The second part of the interview was interesting as a Jew and science background it confirmed what I thought after my Mom passed away. Where does your soul go? It can’t just not exist. My belief it has to go on. Energy just doesn’t disappear from your body. We will never know until it happens to any of us. It gives me peace and hope. I doubt I will follow his work any longer. Thank you Zev for having him on. It’s great to have people who we don’t agree with to listen to their perspectives even when we don’t agree. Though I feel his views are not reality based. I’m sorry to say.
yes, agree, Zev did try to question Junger's statement, but I had to stop watching as I was getting so angry. This am I went back to watch more of it.
Personally, I have come to understand that a loved one never dies because they are part of you, not just some inherited genes, but when you hear a song, or read something that reminds you of them, a smile comes to your face, and that memory can never be erased.
fantastic interview!! this was one of the best I've seen. You two covered it all! Two amazing professionals with compassionate spirits. Thank you Zev and Sebastian!!
ZEV, that was such an interesting conversation! I’m impressed with your level of consciousness, but I should have known this bc of the way you carry yourself in all of your interviews 👏Well done my friend!!🌊🌊
To state the system is holding, is not unlike what the Jews said in Nazi Germany 1928 onward. They won't do anything to us, we fought in WW1, just keep your head down, it will pass, and even up to the last minute, with the possibility of rescue, some people (Chagall), chose to not admit the dangers.
When one makes a political argument, one has to take into consideration the whole population, and the effects of social media, and propganda on that population, which is described correctly as a contagion by psychiatrist Bandi Li.
Perhaps with Junger's avoidance of social media he's to aware of how the right wing and Russian and Chinese propaganda has infiltrated American minds?
Sociopaths should not be rewarded with, well maybe if I met Trump he'd be affable like Bush.
and further...once the system doesn't hold...eg stolen midterms...it's too late and much much harder to correct. But don't take my word, listen to our professors, our experts on fascism, Ruth Ben Ghiat, Timothy Snyder and Jason Stanley.
Life can be extremely stressful, sad, depressing, frightening, and anxiety provoking, and our mind, that is part of our larger brain gives us the ability to find ways to manage all these feelings, thoughts and behaviors associated with living life.
For some it's drugs, prescribed or illegal, for some it's the runner's high, for others it's evangelical fervor (we have our own modern day Whirling Dervishes), for others it's finding the daddy figure you never had (eg Trump and Epstein), for others it's like Junger stated, a high from the cell phone. Work also can be addictive, and I've seen intellectuals, become addictive, in a sense, to their own intellectualizing and rationalizing of life's problems, or of trauma they've experienced, but haven't worked through.
Basically, anything can become an addictive substitute for healthy behavior, when the environment around you is in turmoil, and suffering, and life becomes cruel, and/or confusing.
The brain never shuts down, your thoughts and feelings continue, and in a vacuum, the brain will fill in, will make up a story based on what you've filled it with, your thoughts, feeling, and actions (behavior). That's part of the brains ability to be neuroplastic- the brain adapts to whatever you constantly tell it, healthy or unhealthy.
That also includes all the different types of trauma (including vicarious trauma) people experience in their lives from birth to death. Research states 1-3 people have experienced some form of trauma in their lives. People deal with this trauma in many ways.
Junger's thoughts regarding his after death experience, are similar to the statement in this interview, where he can't tell you whether he likes or dislikes Donald Trump because he "hasn't met him;" and then goes on to say that he met Bush, and found him very personable. To me this is a signal he's a very traumatized individual, whether from being a war correspondent and seeing too much death and dying, or the collective trauma that we as Jews, often carry with us, sometimes consciously, sometimes unconsciously. But is still there, and can unknowingly influence our thoughts, feelings and as a result ,our behaviors.
It's important to recognize this because Mr. Junger is now a public speaker and as such an influencer. Therefore I found this interview very troubling. As a therapist, I found it more troubling than Zev's interview with Michael Cohen (and his personal attacks were disgusting).
There are healthier ways of dealing with life's challenges, than other ways, that on purpose hurt people, and are dangerous, and should not be in any way ENCOURAGED. And in that way, I found Junger's statement about Trump very hurtful. A clear willingness to give Trump some benefit, that yeah maybe if I met him, he'd be a nice guy. Now think about that- Junger is stating that maybe if he met Trump he'd be a nice guy like Bush. What does that little bit of doubt do? One could say the Russians are happy with that statement, because it's right out of the Russian propaganda of confusing reality to confuse your decisions.
Trump cannot differentiate between his healthy and non healthy feelings, thoughts and behaviors because he's a sociopath. And in a way, his behavior has elements of addictiveness, he gets a high from revenge, from the rage that it incurs.
For Junger to state ambivalence about Trump, is to deny the pain and suffering that Trump has unleashed on us and the world. That ambivalence is couched in a lot of Junger's intellectualizing and rationalizing, (and that includes his "after life experiences"), by describing how Trump's bad for democracy, but then inferring he might be a nice guy. That is a highly dangerous and false rationalization, and therefore much more dangerous for democracy than Michael Cohen's protection of Trump and himself.
Cohen's manipulations are right there for all to see. Junger's is much more intellectualized and rationalized. But don't be fooled by it. They both do a disservice to democracy by their statements.
the far right and its propaganda machine pushed the narrative that the only thing the left cares about is trans people. Sebastian is incorrect in his assessment of the left's "agenda." Kamala had actual plans for the economy - apparently Sebastian missed the message.
Sebastian lumping "the left" into some apparently callous group that doesn't care about the working class is an unfair extension of the elitist image of the modern democratic party (btw, who is more elitist than this billionaire class presently in power?). People that vote progressive or democratic are largely the most compassionate - which is why they are labeled snowflakes and treehuggers.
Zev, your guest, Sebastian Junger, recently wrote a post titled "Women Are The Key." I think you and Mr. Junger, if you don't already, should know about an amazing woman, Leymah Gbowee. She is a 2011 Nobel Peace Laureate. A Liberian woman who organized the Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace, a women's non-violent peace movement, which helped bring an end to the Second Liberian Civil War in 2003. Her actions united Christian and Muslim women in protests and strikes, forcing peace talks that led to the fall of the dictator Charles Taylor and helped end the war. I was fortunate to see her speak in Indiana in 2011. Her memoir "Mighty Be Our Power" detailed her work organizing the women for peace.
I only caught the last part of this live, but I’m looking forward to viewing the entire episode. I know about NDEs and expanded states of consciousness, but I was delightfully surprised to hear them discussed on what I thought would be a political discussion. I had no idea that you were interested in these topics, Zev. Your range and depth continues to astound me! I think it is both necessary and salutary to have a metaphysical perspective from which to view the current crisis, which is not just an American crisis, or even a crisis of western civilization. At bottom it is a spiritual crisis of human evolution. Thank you. Zev, for this reminder. And I plan on ordering Mr, Junger’s book.
WOW - what a show!! Thanks Zev and Sebastian
According to Mike at Military Religious Freedom Foundation, eight commanders of units told their soldiers to see the documentary Melania. We have also had the commanders of the unit that committed murder on the high seas and snatched Maduro. They have already crossed the line into giving and obeying illegal orders. Columbia should have filed a case with the International Criminal Court but instead its president was invited to the White House.
Unfortunately the interview wasn’t great because of the annoyance of the fading in and out of the audio from Mr. Junger. I have been looking forward to the interview with Mr.Junger. I followed his work for years. My background as a psychiatric nurse makes me sad to observe a well known journalist and speaker my bubble burst during Zev’s interview. Mr. Junger has no idea what he’s talking about. Yes, each of us has our own prejudices and perceptions of the world. But, this is dangerous. I’m going to give him a little bit of wiggle room. When he says we are not “totally fascist”. He is right on that point. If that is what he meant. Luckily it’s harder to destroy the government that has some guard rails( constitution)vs a government like Russia. A government that had no chance to recover from 1990’s. That being said. We can open our eyes and know what’s happening. His words matter. To say it’s not fascism is wrong. My opinion and he admits it he has been traumatized by war, and his almost death experience concludes me to think why he’s opinion is opposite of mine. I think Zev was surprised how this interview was going. He pushed back by his questions. But still continued. There was nothing for Zev to do but continue on. The second part of the interview was interesting as a Jew and science background it confirmed what I thought after my Mom passed away. Where does your soul go? It can’t just not exist. My belief it has to go on. Energy just doesn’t disappear from your body. We will never know until it happens to any of us. It gives me peace and hope. I doubt I will follow his work any longer. Thank you Zev for having him on. It’s great to have people who we don’t agree with to listen to their perspectives even when we don’t agree. Though I feel his views are not reality based. I’m sorry to say.
yes, agree, Zev did try to question Junger's statement, but I had to stop watching as I was getting so angry. This am I went back to watch more of it.
Personally, I have come to understand that a loved one never dies because they are part of you, not just some inherited genes, but when you hear a song, or read something that reminds you of them, a smile comes to your face, and that memory can never be erased.
Wonderful interview, Zev. It was a treat to hear an interview with Sebastian.
fantastic interview!! this was one of the best I've seen. You two covered it all! Two amazing professionals with compassionate spirits. Thank you Zev and Sebastian!!
ZEV, that was such an interesting conversation! I’m impressed with your level of consciousness, but I should have known this bc of the way you carry yourself in all of your interviews 👏Well done my friend!!🌊🌊
To state the system is holding, is not unlike what the Jews said in Nazi Germany 1928 onward. They won't do anything to us, we fought in WW1, just keep your head down, it will pass, and even up to the last minute, with the possibility of rescue, some people (Chagall), chose to not admit the dangers.
When one makes a political argument, one has to take into consideration the whole population, and the effects of social media, and propganda on that population, which is described correctly as a contagion by psychiatrist Bandi Li.
Perhaps with Junger's avoidance of social media he's to aware of how the right wing and Russian and Chinese propaganda has infiltrated American minds?
Sociopaths should not be rewarded with, well maybe if I met Trump he'd be affable like Bush.
and further...once the system doesn't hold...eg stolen midterms...it's too late and much much harder to correct. But don't take my word, listen to our professors, our experts on fascism, Ruth Ben Ghiat, Timothy Snyder and Jason Stanley.
typo- my comment should read Junger might be -unaware - of the propaganda out there.
Life can be extremely stressful, sad, depressing, frightening, and anxiety provoking, and our mind, that is part of our larger brain gives us the ability to find ways to manage all these feelings, thoughts and behaviors associated with living life.
For some it's drugs, prescribed or illegal, for some it's the runner's high, for others it's evangelical fervor (we have our own modern day Whirling Dervishes), for others it's finding the daddy figure you never had (eg Trump and Epstein), for others it's like Junger stated, a high from the cell phone. Work also can be addictive, and I've seen intellectuals, become addictive, in a sense, to their own intellectualizing and rationalizing of life's problems, or of trauma they've experienced, but haven't worked through.
Basically, anything can become an addictive substitute for healthy behavior, when the environment around you is in turmoil, and suffering, and life becomes cruel, and/or confusing.
The brain never shuts down, your thoughts and feelings continue, and in a vacuum, the brain will fill in, will make up a story based on what you've filled it with, your thoughts, feeling, and actions (behavior). That's part of the brains ability to be neuroplastic- the brain adapts to whatever you constantly tell it, healthy or unhealthy.
That also includes all the different types of trauma (including vicarious trauma) people experience in their lives from birth to death. Research states 1-3 people have experienced some form of trauma in their lives. People deal with this trauma in many ways.
Junger's thoughts regarding his after death experience, are similar to the statement in this interview, where he can't tell you whether he likes or dislikes Donald Trump because he "hasn't met him;" and then goes on to say that he met Bush, and found him very personable. To me this is a signal he's a very traumatized individual, whether from being a war correspondent and seeing too much death and dying, or the collective trauma that we as Jews, often carry with us, sometimes consciously, sometimes unconsciously. But is still there, and can unknowingly influence our thoughts, feelings and as a result ,our behaviors.
It's important to recognize this because Mr. Junger is now a public speaker and as such an influencer. Therefore I found this interview very troubling. As a therapist, I found it more troubling than Zev's interview with Michael Cohen (and his personal attacks were disgusting).
There are healthier ways of dealing with life's challenges, than other ways, that on purpose hurt people, and are dangerous, and should not be in any way ENCOURAGED. And in that way, I found Junger's statement about Trump very hurtful. A clear willingness to give Trump some benefit, that yeah maybe if I met him, he'd be a nice guy. Now think about that- Junger is stating that maybe if he met Trump he'd be a nice guy like Bush. What does that little bit of doubt do? One could say the Russians are happy with that statement, because it's right out of the Russian propaganda of confusing reality to confuse your decisions.
Trump cannot differentiate between his healthy and non healthy feelings, thoughts and behaviors because he's a sociopath. And in a way, his behavior has elements of addictiveness, he gets a high from revenge, from the rage that it incurs.
For Junger to state ambivalence about Trump, is to deny the pain and suffering that Trump has unleashed on us and the world. That ambivalence is couched in a lot of Junger's intellectualizing and rationalizing, (and that includes his "after life experiences"), by describing how Trump's bad for democracy, but then inferring he might be a nice guy. That is a highly dangerous and false rationalization, and therefore much more dangerous for democracy than Michael Cohen's protection of Trump and himself.
Cohen's manipulations are right there for all to see. Junger's is much more intellectualized and rationalized. But don't be fooled by it. They both do a disservice to democracy by their statements.
the far right and its propaganda machine pushed the narrative that the only thing the left cares about is trans people. Sebastian is incorrect in his assessment of the left's "agenda." Kamala had actual plans for the economy - apparently Sebastian missed the message.
Sebastian lumping "the left" into some apparently callous group that doesn't care about the working class is an unfair extension of the elitist image of the modern democratic party (btw, who is more elitist than this billionaire class presently in power?). People that vote progressive or democratic are largely the most compassionate - which is why they are labeled snowflakes and treehuggers.
Zev, your guest, Sebastian Junger, recently wrote a post titled "Women Are The Key." I think you and Mr. Junger, if you don't already, should know about an amazing woman, Leymah Gbowee. She is a 2011 Nobel Peace Laureate. A Liberian woman who organized the Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace, a women's non-violent peace movement, which helped bring an end to the Second Liberian Civil War in 2003. Her actions united Christian and Muslim women in protests and strikes, forcing peace talks that led to the fall of the dictator Charles Taylor and helped end the war. I was fortunate to see her speak in Indiana in 2011. Her memoir "Mighty Be Our Power" detailed her work organizing the women for peace.
love the flip phone idea
get the kids out, if you can
the money...
Great interview! Sebastian is great !
Love Zev !